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   So I did a crit on the Art Board, my usual harsh, bitter, sarcastic ones.  But they are also detailed and thought out some, not just couple of sentences thrown in to the void. And once again, it was pulled down, happens a lot.  Not like I pick complete amateurs and fan artists, I usually choose someone mid-grade, those who are well on their way and are still mentally stuck in the "Woo, complement me!" phase.

Not that I don't enjoy the occasional ass kissing, but if you want a bunch of strangers complementing you for every single doodle you post, you should do a webcomic, not ask for a crit then run and hide because it was too harsh.

I don't need to be that harsh, of course, but I feel I should make up for all the bland platitudes and generic blah blah that passes for "C & C." 

I don't need to be that sarcastic, but I figure it should be entertaining as well as informative, even for the casual lurker, if not for me as well.  Why waste the bloody time if I don't enjoy it?

   Having already had several of my posts deleted for insensitivity, I save the html info before hand:

 

 [He who hath been sacrificed to appease the foul and evil God of ART]



[Origial post deleted, but said somehtng 'bout this being a old piece of art, etc...]

 Shari
hooooray~! first art post! ^O^

it appeared a bit dark on my monitor tho, (my shitty monitor as Fred called it ^^;

 Nulani
It's good.

---C&C:

It is a bit dark yes, even on my snazzy lcd screen. Which means I wouldn't have been able to see it at all on my old unsnazzy crt screen. Anyway, since I can see it on my lcd screen I'll try and come up with some criticism.

The cheeks are a bit deformed and assymetric. That is the only thing people will see if they don't like me lean really close into the screen. Since I did lean really close into the screen, I should add that the arms are slightly assymetric as well: Varying in thickness between right and left. But no one with a life and something to do will notice that.

So all in all. We hate it how humans are symmetric.

 Red Lion
Still pretty cool, I like the texture I can just barely see on the blades in the dark.

 HS_Kim

Too dark, can't see squat.
It makes them look more like aliens then usual.

Yes, they look very mysterious and so forth, and yes, I'm sure you were going for that look, etc.
Original:


Let's level that sucker out, let's see under the hood.
Pretty paint jobs hide the ugly!

OK.
Let's split this by talking 'bout the basic drawing, then the concept.

1.Heads. The shape is proportional and pretty much on the mark, the placement of the eyes and pupil size is a bit fucked up.

Note the eyes are located in the middle of the head, length wise. Yes, anime, yes, cartoon, right and so forth. But even in the most stylized toons, the eyes are placed, bulging like a humongous insect as they are, at or at least BENEATH the mid way point.

Except able? Yes. Ugly? Also yes.

Misalignment of the eyes to the nose to the mouth and the neck'll likely be cleared up in the future as you draw more.

2. Wrist. Bent at an angle unsuitable to holding a heavy piece of metal, unless the swords are made of foam or have anti-gravity boosters within them.

Simple case of the mental image not meeting real world physics. Take a heavy rod and hold it up. Look at yourself in the mirror. Failing that go look at people actually holding up swords.

3. What is up with the dude's sword? By the blood stain, he's holding the thing reversed.

Why? Is that a futuristic "Sakabato" meets Buster sword? By the clever and original JAPANESE names you gave these charming 10 year olds, I assume she's holding a Japanese sword. The drawing indicates you are capable of intricate detail, I suggest you look up the GAZILLION sites on the web devoted to all types of swords, real and imagined, and how they are used.

Seriously, this isn't 1987 when I had to imagine how Michangelo of the Ninja Turtles would hold up his nunchucks. You have the time and resources to register you own domain name and call your single splash image a "creative portfolio," then you can look up what type of swords your characters'll be posing with and how they are used.


4. Ok, when it takes longer to comprehend what the text reads then to download your incredibly uncompressed PNG image (Why? Are you too good for Jpg? You think you're better then JPEGS!? Huh? Huh? You think black pixels look sharper in 312KB PNG? Are you F'ing nuts? If you ever use PNG other then 8-bit export for web menus, I'll KILL you, KILL YOU! And your Mother!), then it's time to change your font.

Assuming you actually want it to be read, who knows maybe you thought it was "rad," and didn't think ahead. Wouldn't be the first.

Takuro and Kyoko... you might think I might make fun of that, but no. 20 years ago they would've been named "Daxxon & Sherra," or some other nonsense. Just know, that they are your characters, they can be anything in the world. And understand that I and every other person on the net will make fun of you for "Takuro & Kyoko." Now it may be that you're not just another kid who watched too much "Japanimation" off the web, it may be that you have a deep, cultural connection to our little island friends that extends beyond cartoons and video games, I don't know.

What ever the fact may be, if you know this much Photoshop and basic draftsmanship, it's time to move on. If not to actual fine arts or something more meaningful to you personally, then at least to something slightly less embarrassing.. might I suggest Harry Potter? It is in English, and lots and lots of fangirls just DIG HP fan art!

5. Nice threads. Futuristic "wife beater," v-neck one piece, and a generic electro-doohikie on the shoulder. Very nice, but the question arise, "what's up with the swords, like, isn't, like the future or something? I mean, like, don't they have ray-guns, phasers and shit?" Something to ponder on your next piece.

6. Ooh, directional speed blur! Yes, we all love filters. Use 'em up quick, 'cause most of them are one time deals. Most of them are very precise and particular tools, rarely applicable to cartoonists.. the type effects people swear by them though.

But seriously, try all them tools, see how they work. And try some pieces for the particular effects... and ultimately let the work, the idea, the concept dictate what tools you want, not vice-a-versa.


And finally, because I learn to draw a decade before PCs were powerful or cheap enough, it's always draw, draw, draw, then scan.

But most of you grow up side by side with Photoshop and all the latest progs, you're learning analog drawing and digital painting all at once. You'll be that much tighter then geezers of my generation, but a solid foundation is a must.

A well done line drawing will always be beautiful, but you can never cover up a weak drawing no matter how much PS magic you use.

P.S. If I come off harsh, it's because I'm a dick.

We all have thousands of bad drawings to get out of the way, no use cuddling #234, note the errors, god know I keep making 'em, then just move on to the next.

And the next.

 


 Leun
But isn't he such a lovable dick! Jeezus you remind me of one of my highschool art teachers, you know the jerk, who's always expecting people to improve. And the one that always nitpacks about "reality." And who kicked me in the stomach for drawing 'toons. Hmmm... have you ever worked as an art teacher?

my only tip rik that Mr. Hyung missed, copy other people you do it in your various art classes no problem doing it here. It'll help ground your images, and after you're all boss and shiet, you can break out your all original style.

oh yeah and don't avoid drawing hands! I do it way to often,

 William Beckerson
Damn! That was brutal.

 Drooling Fan Girl
Now the fun part.

Hyung, yes you were a brutal bastard and you just ripped someone strangers drawing to the heart.

Please do us all a favor and don't be surprised if Rik and Rik's friends react to the bastard part, rather than the honest crit that was underneath all of the cursing and meaness.

 William Beckerson
It's true, at last count I have four cyber-stalkers because I didn't pamper the little children. I had a fifth, but he seemed to have had an attack of "Better try to cover up my crap"-itis.

 HS_Kim
I replaced the original pic he deleted.

If you think that was tough, try gettin a job in the real world.

Thread deleted on Request.

 

So... too harsh?

 

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